| Tue, Jan 4 2011 09:44pm GMT 1 |

Poultry Talk. com Team
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So you may of never shown your birds before, are
considering it, or have just started?
The big question a lot of people have is how do you start? Which
is the best way? Especially to get help & advice from the
'experts' in each breed area or in the 'showing world'.
Maybe you have exhibited or an exhibitor, or looked into showing,
if so, what do/did you find are the best ways to get honest help
& advice from the experts out there to help you advance in
the showing world?
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| Sat, Jan 8 2011 10:00am GMT 2 |

Supertractorman
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Hi, Can I start the ball rolling as I have never been to a Poultry
Show other than the Poultry tents at Agricultural Shows. At those
shows it always seemed to be a closed shop, but enlighten me on
these questions.
1. Do you have to be a member of a Breed group or Society to enter
?.
2. Is there any risk of your birds catching any disease or illness
and bringing it back to your home stock ?.
3. Are their specific books you need to read to know which birds
are best to take to avoid making big mistakes and a fool of
yourself ?.
4. Does the experience traumatise birds who have never been shown
before ?.
5. Do you have to purchase show breed lines to stand any chance
rather than just a bird out of any stock ?.
6. Lastly I have heard of eggs being exhibited and wonder what
makes for winning eggs ?
I would be interested in any comments.
David
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| Sat, Jan 8 2011 02:26pm GMT 3 |

red1007
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Hi Q1 answer: no you dont have to be a member but it limits you in
things you can recieve for winning. It is good to be a member of
each show club becasue it only costs on average 2.50 or £3 and then
they send schedules and entry forms straight out to you. So I am a
member to all my local shows. The breed club memberships are
slightly different - good to be with them because of newsletters
and you go on a breeders list so helps you to sell stock. Often
some shows wont give you the cups etc unless you are a member as
they need to trust your details but will give you the card and
rosette. Q2 risk of catching is not how you should word it. Most
pure breeds are carriers of myco and stress bring it out - so most
people treat their birds about 3 days before the shows with batril
and tylan and during the show and three days after. Now some breeds
are hardier to myco than other - e'g' silkies well know as the
worst. Most people frontline birds as well to prevent crawlies Q3
Information sent from the breed clubs useful but best way is just
to enter the birds in the smaller shows and ask judge for feedback
and they will tell you what faults you should focus on. Q4 Birds
should be handled regularly to help them and also handled properly
with the legs. This reduces stress. I start young birds off in
local little shows and keep putting them in till I get to the big
shows. Some people set up a small penning section in a shed or
garage to practise with them for a couple of days at a time. Q5 You
get pet stock, breeding stock and showing stock. It is fine to work
with breeding and show but not the pet stuff. It is best to be
realistic. I breed gold partridge wyandottes now the top breeder is
geoff parker which my line is from. Geoff has won 1st 2nd and 3rd
for the past ten years at both major shows - year on year. This
does not mean my birds are rubbish just geoff the man to beat. My
pullet came 4th out of 20 so in my mind I won that as didnt expect
to beat geoff anyways. Just becasue your bird doesnt get carded
doesnt mean they are sub show standard just more typey birds there.
TYPE more important than colour. Q6 eggs is to do with the class
you enter them in on so you would have to decide what class to put
them in - usually about 20 classes at little shows - Majority are
just based on egg shape, shell colour and quality of shell but I do
the contents one which looks at the inside too as the judge breaks
it open. Some eggs that are shown are 2 or 3 years old - just kept
safe and constantly put back in. There is a show just for eggs - If
you want to show eggs you should look at that show. Red x
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| Sun, Jan 9 2011 09:56am GMT 4 |

Supertractorman
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Red, Thanks for the great response to my questions, and certainly a
lot to think about. I notice there is a show at Lanark in a
fortnights time, so providing we are not snowed in, I will go and
have a look to see exactly what takes place.
Looked in my chickens book about Myco but cannot find any
reference, can you enlighten me please.
Was just a bit concerned about people showing eggs 2 - 3 years old
as that can hardly be fair, and they must only be "Pot Hunters" and
possibly this will not give the encouragement to beginners to get
involved in showing.
Thanks again, David
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| Sun, Jan 9 2011 10:49am GMT 5 |

red1007
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mycoplasma eggs showing doesnt have it in the rule book the age of
the egg - All I say is be careful near the egg table I was at a
show where one got broken and it stunk - dont know how old it was
but it was off!! hope you enjoy your show Red
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| Sat, Jan 22 2011 11:09pm GMT 6 |

Supertractorman
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I went to Lanark today and was interested to see the egg Judge with
a bowl of water to check eggs, as she said it was surprising what
you find !.
Was a little concerned in the For Sale section where in one pen of
trios of hens to see one hen being chased round and hounded
viciously by the other two continuously, and in another pen what I
believed to be blood drawn on a white hen. Another pen had a duck
with what appeared to be an eye missing. There did not appear to be
any stewards in that area making me wonder how much care is being
taken or does no one care if its for sale.
Don't think I want to get involved in the showing world if only to
keep my flock disease free and I will prefer to buy livestock from
a caring breeder.
David
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| Sat, Jan 22 2011 11:36pm GMT 7 |

red1007
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thing is myco is in most pure breeds and it is brought on by stress
so you can buy from a careful breeder but their stock could still
have an outbreak of myco a couple days after you have them and it
isnt the breeders fault. Also some breeds are carriers for mareaks
and stress brings that out too. Some pure breeds like the TNN are
more disease resistant. I show and I think people would say I am a
caring breeder and I know of a lot around me who dont show and I
certainly wouldnt call some of them careful breeders by what I have
seen. Please note i have said pure breeds - dont send messages
about hybrids please. Red :)
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