| Tue, Dec 15 2009 05:24pm GMT 1 |

Corky
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I noticed today that Henny's cluck sounded a bit nasal and her comb
was pale. As I was taking the cat to the vet, I took her along too.
She has no discharge and is eating and mooching about although she
is still moulting.The vet seemed to think it may be Gape worm and
gave me a spray on product called Xeno200 which treats all worms
and mites. It seems a great way to treat for worms as I can't get
my Banty's to eat the pellet form.
I will let you know how she does.
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| Tue, Dec 15 2009 10:53pm GMT 2 |

Poultry Talk. com Team
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Hi Corky.
Nice to see you posting on the forum.
I have not heard of that before. Hope she gets better soon and will
be interested to hear how you get on with it.
Regards.
Jamie.
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| Fri, Jan 8 2010 09:41am GMT 3 |

Corky
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Now after not picking up for a week or so but eating and trotting
about with the others, she is circling to the right and her face
doesnt seem right, and her eyes are a bit bigger??
I have brought her indoors.
Could it be Newcastle disease??? Should I take her to the
vet??
has anyone else come across these symptoms??
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| Fri, Jan 8 2010 06:33pm GMT 4 |

Poultry Talk. com Team
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Hi Corky.
I am sorry but I am not sure. I would advise taking her to the
vet as soon as you can though.
Really sorry I cannot do anything else to help. It is good to
have her separated from the others though.
Regards
Jamie.
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| Fri, Jan 8 2010 06:45pm GMT 5 |

BigBrahma
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Could be
Newcastles among other things, personally I would keep her
separate and if this is not possible cull immediately. I would do
the same with any other birds showing symptoms. Do not risk the
rest of your flock. It is also possible that it is some other
type of respiratory condition common in poultry and that this
discomfort is causing her to circle. If you can isolate her try
some antibiotics.
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| Sat, Jan 9 2010 04:11pm GMT 6 |

ScarlettBuffy
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I would get her to the Vet for some antibiotics asap. If you keep
her separate from the others, be careful about transmitting the
disease. Do the healthy birds first, before the sick one, and
disinfect your hands, boots etc as well as any equipment you've
used so you don't spread anything about. Let us know how you get on
at the Vet, and best of luck, had a health scare with my own little
flock 7 months ago, so know how distressing the worry can be.
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| Sat, Jan 9 2010 06:43pm GMT 7 |

Corky
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I spoke to my vet who when I mentioned Newcastles got in touch with
the Ministry vets in case it is was.
I had to speak to the Min vet about her symptoms who came to the
conclusion it wouldnt be as the other 2 would be showing signs. So
we are going to keep her isolated and treat her. I have antibiotics
for her which I collected from my vet. It may be an ear infection.
Other things have been suggested, stroke or brain tumour that could
cause her to circle.
She has had 3 doses, its early days yet but she is no worse which
is a good thing. She is bright and eating and has no other
symptoms apart from walking round in circles of different degrees
depending on how much space she has around her.
Fingers crossed!!
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| Sat, Jan 9 2010 09:10pm GMT 8 |

ScarlettBuffy
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That's good news they don't think it's ND. I hope she picks up
after a few days of abs, and it's nothing too serious for her. Keep
doing what your doing, and hopefully there will be some improvement
after the weekend. At least she's not getting any worse, so still
some hope for her. Let us know how she gets on.
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| Sun, Jan 10 2010 11:48am GMT 9 |

Corky
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Thanks, she is still the same but is eating, even if its only
banana and mealworms!!
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| Sun, Jan 10 2010 06:56pm GMT 10 |

The Garden Hen
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Hi, New to this website but I do have experience with poultry.
Their health is something that I have studied for many years, and I
now teach at an agricultural collage as well as running poultry
courses. I have bee away from the poultry scene for a couple of
years due to my own health but now feel fit enough to put something
back into this facinating hobby.
Corky, Firstly any bird that is still in moult at this time of year
is not in good condition, the very idea of moulting is to have the
best feathers to insulate during the cold winter months, so I
suspect there is an underlying condition that has been going on for
some months. If a bird is circling and pulling its head to one side
then immediatly one would suspect either Mareks or fowl paralysis.
Both these are now very rare due to vacination programmes, but if
this is the case then there is very little that can be done.
Balance, and head held problems, can sometimes be as simple as a
vitamin 'E' difficientcy, and I would suggest feeding some dried
milk powder. If she is eating the banana then dust some over that
so it sticks to it. If you could let me know what breed she is, how
old she is and what her droppings are like (consistency and colour)
I may be able to help further.
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| Mon, Jan 11 2010 01:15am GMT 11 |

Poultry Talk. com Team
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Hi.
Glad she is eating Corky.
Garden Hen, welcome to the site, pleasure to have you here. Your
wealth of knowledge on bird health is clearly impressive and it's
nice to see Corky being offered more help and advice.
Really do hope it helps Corky and thank you Garden Hen.
Lets hope for a positive outcome.
Regards.
Jamie.
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| Mon, Jan 11 2010 07:07pm GMT 12 |

Corky
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Thanks Garden Hen, its great to have advice when everything is a
learning curve. I used to be a vet nurse so have some background on
sick animals but not really chickens.
She is a Belgian Bantam about 10 months old -see my in my avatar
photo :-)
Her droppings are now normal but she did have diarrhoea a few
days ago - I put that down to her not eating and just drinking
water that day.
I am glad to say that after 3 days of antibiotics, she is
recovering and was much brighter today. She can walk in a
straight line and gave herself a really good preen!!
She even jumped up on my husbands shoulder !!!
So we are thinking it must be a middle ear infection. I'll keep
up with the course of A/biotics and hopefully she can go back
with the others soon.
I have ordered some good tonic - Liquid Tonic with Seaweed and
Bioflavonoids to help pick her up.
many thanks to all that helped with advice and good wishes!!!
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| Mon, Jan 11 2010 07:13pm GMT 13 |

Poultry Talk. com Team
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Really glad to hear that Corky.
Regards
Jamie.
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| Tue, Jan 12 2010 11:00am GMT 14 |

The Garden Hen
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Glad the bird is recovering. Just as a footnote to anyone being
offered antibiotics by a vet. Always try and insist on an
intermuscular anti biotic, someting like terrymicin. It will then
act like a course of anti biotics, normally lasting seven days. You
also then know that the bird has the drug in its blood stream. Many
sick birds will not drink, so baytrill can be very hit and miss. To
help your bird now, try feeding high protein food, one of the best
you can give is a scrambled egg, but remove anything un-eaten after
24 hours and replace with a fresh portion.
Hope this helps.
Jamie thank you for the welcome and kind words.
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| Tue, Jan 12 2010 10:27pm GMT 15 |

Corky
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Thanks Garden Hen.
I am impressed at how the Oral Baytril worked for our hen though.
I administered it by syringe and she took it well just dribbled
into the side of her beak which didn't stress her.
Intra muscular inj is the quickest way to get a/bios to work,
with sub cutaneous (under the skin) second. Oral is a bit hit and
miss and has to be done twice daily for 5 or 7 days.
She loves egg so thats on the menu with porridge, mealworms and
banana plus greens so that she gets her strength back and can
soon rejoin the other two.
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